Forum:Moving All The Tropes Wiki to a new server

Arcane asked me several days ago (sorry about the delay, we're still working on setting things up) about the possibility of moving All The Tropes Wiki away from Orain where the staff are perpetually AWOL for simple tasks. I need to run this by Marcus, since he handles final billing, but it should be fine since he manages personal stuff of me and DondreKhan, and we could fit in some additional project if it has funding.

I'm fine with setting up a server for an existing wiki as long as it gets paid for and we can be compensated for our work. We can get a VPS for $10 per month, and $15 per hour of work would probably be a fair price for work. For general operations, I could probably cut this down to a minimum of maybe 1-2 hours per month to just update software and make sure everything is scaled correctly. At that it would cost around $25 to $40 per month. If the wiki has plenty of current users who can manage it as admins, I'm fine with setting it up. Current Lexipedium privacy rules would apply under our management; only sysadmins get bureaucrat access due to Check User and Oversight, which only they get and IP and email addresses aren't disclosed.

We can throw in a free .ssu.lt domain as well.

My only concern with Marcus is the no advertising policy. It might be fine, but I'd like to propose the possibility of end of page ads. They aren't visible when first loading the page and appear at the end when people are getting done with the article anyway.

I'm fine with any skin and extension that is stable and will be maintained. Anything with security risks can compromise user privacy. Just keep in mind that more extensions mean more maintenance.

We'll probably restrict server side work to the Lexipedium staff simply because of concerns about user privacy and any legal implications on a server that we own. If there's a secure way of implementing a restricted webshell or web FTP, we could implement that to allow outside assistance, but even that would have risks, namely someone uploading an unrestricted shell. Lieutenant S., Geschichtmeister des Lexipedium (talk) 21:46, 28 June 2014 (EDT)
 * Please table this discussion....for the time being, at any rate. Orain finally has been pretty productive as of late and the problems with absentee staff seem to be behind us. However, assuming this becomes a question in the future again, the price sounds reasonable enough, the service offered sounds great, and I'd be fine with ads if I had no other choice as long as the advertisers had zero say in the content of the site and logged in users could disable viewing of the ads if they so desired. Again, this is no longer a concern at the moment, but assuming we needed to worry about this again and the offer was still on the table, the staff of ATT would definitely be interested in further discussion on this. Also, we do have a Wikia spinoff site as well as an Orain site, and I wouldn't mind doing some complementary advertising for your site on either if you guys wouldn't mind returning the favor (i.e. putting a link on to us on the front page or something similar). Arcane (talk) 22:33, 28 June 2014 (EDT)